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Expect SoNo mall proposal in June, Sheehan says

GGP Senior Development Director Charles Tapia outlines traffic management ideas for the developing SoNo mall plan, during a February Joint Committee meeting in City Hall.
GGP Senior Development Director Charles Tapia outlines traffic management ideas for the developing SoNo mall plan during a February Joint Committee meeting in City Hall.

NORWALK, Conn. — Concerns about the look of the developing SoNo mall plan appear to be in the forefront of Common Council members’ minds.

Planning Committee members Thursday queried Redevelopment Agency Executive Director Tim Sheehan about the agency’s negotiations with General Growth Properties (GGP), owner of the 95/7 site on at the intersection of Interstate 95 and West Avenue, emphasizing that they want a crack at the look of the proposal before it moves forward. Sheehan’s update included the explanation that the people swarming the site during the day are doing environmental testing.

“I would strongly get the message back that the day they walk in with some proposals for language for design changes that they also have a rendering to go along with that,” Planning Committee Chairman Doug Hempstead (R-At Large) said to Sheehan.

The agency has provided GGP with design parameters, Sheehan said. “They are reviewing those and are supposed to have those back to us with comments. Obviously those new design guidelines will become part of the amendment to … the urban renewal plan (for the site).”

GGP is expected to advance a design in June and the Council will get a crack at it as the Council must approve the changes to the Land Disposition Agreement (LDA) for the site, Sheehan said.

“The guidelines the agency formulated are taking into account the conversations that were had amongst members here as to the sensitivities to the context of the neighborhood,” Sheehan said. “…You’re not going to have something that doesn’t lend itself well to the character of the area. You are not designing just for a 12-acre site, that ignores everything that’s around it.”

Councilman Bruce Kimmel (D-At Large) suggested that he didn’t want to be put in the position of being told he would delay the project by six months if he tried to push the project in a certain way once the documents become public.

Sheehan said he would share the design guidelines in June at the next committee meeting.

Council members have been told not to try to negotiate individually with GGP, Councilman Rich Bonenfant (R-At Large) said. Expressing an opinion in public is fine, but “We also got a letter discouraging individual negotiations,” he said.

Everything is up for discussion, Hempstead said, citing the Enterprise Zone and the public realm space (5 percent of the total development) as topics that haven’t been resolved.

“There’s nothing on the library on the books, there’s a whole discussion about library,” Hempstead said. “…. I don’t know anything not being discussed.”

There are trucks on the site now and “quite a few people” walking the property during the day, Sheehan said. That’s environmental testing. “There’s some remediation that probably needs to be redone on the site.”

Sunday will mark an annual tradition, Kimmel said – 500 people running by the site for a Mother’s Day race.

Many of the runners are from out of town, leading to “fascinating” commentary every year about the long-vacant pile of dirt, he said. “I’ve had some funny discussions.”

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6 responses to “Expect SoNo mall proposal in June, Sheehan says”

  1. Piberman

    Anyone doing a traffic study ? Nah, this is Norwalk where no ones concerned about traffic. Save the residents.

  2. Bruce Kimmel

    Peter, good point. There will be traffic studies once we are clear about what’s going to be built on the property.

  3. Audrey Cozzarin

    In addition to traffic studies, anybody aware that malls are considered “passé?”

    Vibrant downtowns are now considered more appropriate and popular in terms of destinations. Look at Port Chester, NY, which stuck a giant mall at the crossroads intersection of downtown. Or New Rochelle with a mall in downtown. Makes things VERY congested traffic-wise and separates people from their civic sphere scale-wise.

  4. Suzanne

    Parameters for what is to be built on the property have been made very clear through multiple reports including architecture, anchors, traffic mitigation (i.e., tunnel, NOT the impact of the expected number of shoppers), repeated expectations about the number of shoppers per month (1 million), alternative transport between neighborhoods and the train station, what the five percent of public space will be comprised of, how much square footage will be devoted to retail, etc., etc., etc.

    This is now the “dance”, getting past the waltz of happy community meetings, doing the employment wave for us lucky citizens who will not be able to afford to live on what jobs are being offered and endless power point presentations with arrows and symbols and pretty pictures. Now we are onto to the stomp of hip hop, as in nail all of that talk to the ground.

    I am afraid, Ms. Cozzarin, your point, after months and months of research and supporting documentation showing just how passe Malls are in America, in towns like Norwalk, towns not like Norwalk and in urban and suburban environments has shown absolutely no affect on Norwalk leadership.

    They are choosing the data provided by, wait for it, the developer! The group that has no buy in into Norwalk’s community other than to make lots and lots of money then, when the cycle of profitability is over, “take the money and run.”

    You have now officially become a Mall “naysayer” because your point, although correct, disagrees with the Mall cheerleaders.

  5. Wineshine

    @ Audrey, doesn’t matter. This is Norwalk. If we wish it, it will come true. We’re different!! (wink wink). Can someone please post an article, any article, from the past five years that says malls are healthy for towns, and we don’t have enough of them? Someone, anyone? National bricks and mortar chains are closing units by the hundreds and thousands, but, we’re Norwalk. Things will be different here. Wall St. has a popular adage: “The trend is your friend”. Mall-building is not the trend. It is in fact a last ditch effort by the property owners to develop the site so they can flip it quickly and be done here.

  6. Don’t Panic

    I’m very disappointed that this council continues to focus on what the building will look like on the outside, instead of the impact it will have on the area.

    @wineshine, someone did post such an article in comments on a past mall article here on NON. The article was from…you guessed it…an industry trade magazine. Ta dah!

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