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Norwalk P&Z director’s personnel file contains no evidence of urban planning training

Planning and Zoning Director Mike Greene
Norwalk Planning and Zoning Director Mike Greene.

NORWALK, Conn. – Repeated assertions by a former member of the Norwalk Zoning Commission about the Planning and Zoning director’s lack of credentials for the position appear to be accurate.

“Get us the full, up to date professional credentials of staff (not the resumes from the 1970s when they were hired, thank you very much),” former Zoning Commissioner Mike Mushak said in a Sunday comment on this site, referring to P&Z staff.

The comment was in response to comments left by Republican Town Committee  Chairman Pete Torrano on a letter to the editor from former RTC chief Art Scialabba. The letter calls for an investigation into Mushak’s frequent public claims that P&Z Director Mike Greene has no credentials as a planner to qualify him for his position, among other issues (NancyOnNorwalk will address those issues in another report).

But up-to-date credentials are hard to come by – in response to a Freedom of Information Act request made by NancyOnNorwalk in November, Personnel Department Director Emmet Hibson provided the documentation available for Greene, Assistant P&Z Director Mike Wrinn and Senior Planner Dori Wilson, which did not include a resume for Greene.

It did include his application for employment. On Oct. 27, 1978, Greene applied to be a planning engineer. For education, Greene lists his elementary school, his high school and says that he graduated from Cornell University in Ithaca, N.Y., in 1977. The space for “courses majored in” is blank.

Greene worked as an environmental analyst and assistant engineer for a year after graduating, then went to work as an assistant to the project manager for a construction engineering company in May 1978, the application states.

Greene did not respond to emails requesting comment.

NoN asked Hibson on Monday if Greene’s personnel folder included any notifications of further credentials that may have been obtained during Greene’s long employment with the city. Hibson said there are none.

“It doesn’t mean he doesn’t have one, it just means he hasn’t put us on notice of it,” Hibson said.

There was no resume for Wrinn included in the packet provided by Hibson, either.

Wrinn applied to be a planning engineer on Oct. 30, 1985, according to his employment application. He is a Norwalk High School graduate and received a Bachelor’s Degree in natural resource conservation in 1980 from the University of Connecticut, the application states.

He had worked for the Department of Public Works since March 1981, overseeing construction projects to make sure the work was done in compliance with the specifications, the document states. He had also been a laborer, while attending college, working on construction projects.

Wilson’s information includes a resume.

She applied to be a senior planner on April 7, 1988, according to her application. She holds a Master’s of Science degree in urban planning from Southern Connecticut State University, which she received in 1985, according to the resume. She has a Bachelor of Arts degree in environmental science and design from Antioch College. She studied biology and art at Simons Rock Early College. She also studied architectural drafting at Norwalk State Technical College.

She had worked as a community planner for Stamford since 1985, the resume states. Before that, when she was working for her masters in 1983 to 1985, she worked as an assistant neighborhood planner for Stamford. From 1978 to 1983 she worked in visual merchandising for Lord & Taylor in Stamford and Ed Mitchell in Westport. From 1975 to 1977, Wilson was urban parks project manager for the National Parks Service in Harpers Ferry in West Virginia, planning and producing exhibits for the park service throughout the northeast, the resume states.

Greene Wilson Wrinn

Comments

33 responses to “Norwalk P&Z director’s personnel file contains no evidence of urban planning training”

  1. Maritime (33 North Water) Condo Owner

    Great investigation work Nancy. I don’t have enough information to decide which side to support; but, I appreciate the additional transparency of the applications. What I do know is that Norwalk deserves the best and brightest to help us with urban planning.

  2. Oldtimer

    No surprise Mushak knows what he is talking about. Education credentials are probably not as important as Mushak thinks. The zoning commission would not likely give anybody more control than Greene has, regardless of credentials, as that commission holds pretty tight reins on it’s powers. There is some indication that politics has more influence on their decisions than planning expertise. Didn’t the City pay big money for “expert” planning advice, in the form of studies, and then totally ignore the advice in the studies ?

  3. Linda Almonet

    I don’t think I understand the issue. Has he ever represented that he had a degree? Is there a requirement for a degree? Does 30 plus years in the job not count for a lot more than the handful of classes necessary to get a degree?

    In the same way that the Zoning Commission doesn’t need to follow studies done by outside “experts” and hand over control of the city to companies with no connection to Norwalk, nor do they need to do everything the staff people say. The commission is made up of average people from Norwalk, and they have been happy with all of the folks mentioned for many many years, and done what they felt was right for the city.

    So, he doesn’t have a degree he never claimed he had. Does Nancy have a degree in journalism? Does Mark?

  4. cc-rider

    Linda- It is totally reasonable to have sufficient qualifications for this high level position. Would you get on a plane with a pilot that doesn’t have sufficient training? Why set the bar so low for such a important position in the town? Nancy and Mark are not Norwalk city employees making 165k a year with two months vacation so do not muddy the waters.

  5. Linda Almonet

    The head of Planning and Zoning isn’t taking anyone’s life in his hands. Is there a requirement that has been established for this position? If so, then why is the mayor allowing this to continue? If all of these horrible crimes are being committed and are somehow endangering the city, where is the mayor?

    Obviously, that is all tongue in cheek. 30 years of completely reasonable performance trumps a degree, and I agree, Mark and Nancy do a fine job regardless of what degrees they have….because of their years of experience. Water unmuddied.

  6. cc-rider

    Linda- I would encourage you to use search feature of this website and use “Planning and Zoning”. Let me know if you still have the same outlook after reading article after article about the nonsense that still passes muster here in Norwalk.

  7. John Hamlin

    Thank you Nancy on Norwalk. Keep up your excellent work.

  8. Tim D

    These sort of “witch hunts” never end well – take notice Mr Greene. The question then becomes – Who’s next? Who is in Mushak’s sights next?

  9. Mike Mushak

    This is all about fixing our broken planning process that has occurred through a lack of accountability and proper experience, that has been going in for decades leading Norwalk to make numerous bad planning decisions, like on CT Ave that has turned that corridor into a traffic clogged mess costing taxpayers $80 million to fix, and on Wall Street that is now just recovering after decades of blight and empty storefronts, and in South Norwalk where a broken zoning code and lack of code enforcement has left the lower South Main and Woodward corridor a blighted mess with low income folks living in substandard housing mostly owned by out of town slumlords getting rich through disinvestment.

    Millions of dollars of taxpayer money has been wasted on professional studies ignored on major land use decisions, that are mostly commissioned by the Refevelopment Agency that P and Z has a long history of not collaborating with.

    For example, in the AMEC hearing just this month Greene said on the record that he never even heard of a $200,000 professional study led by a team of national experts, that took 2 years and involved numerous public hearings with much community input, and was approved by the Common Council and should have been automatically included in the Master Plan as is required by established planning processes involving annual updates of the Master Plan.

    How can a city continue to make major land use decisions in a vacuum, wasting millions of potential property tax revenue and economic investment?

    The way to fix it is to restore full accountability to the P and Z Department through performance reviews and set goals that can be measured against every year. This mechanism is in place through the by-laws and city charter but the current Chair of the Zoning Commission has stated he will not follow the tradition of oerfirmane reviews that was ended when Mayor Moccia was elected in 2005.

    When I was on the ZC I had repeatedly asked for the professional credentials to identify staff’s strengths and weaknesses, in order to be able to bring in experts to advise strategies to integrate up to date planning concepts into our land use process. This was after embarrassing revelations on the record by staff in front of outside experts and applicants and professionally licensed commissioners like me (I am a licensed landscape architect in 3 states with a background in urban planning) that revealed 1970’s ideas about stormwater management, parking requirements, and sustainability practices that all other cities around the country have replaced.

    I was shocked at the lack of skills and knowledge of our staff, and their actual disdain for professional planning concepts and expert advice. Norwalk residents and businesses deserve the very best for the salaries and benefits we are paying, and getting our staff up to speed relative to most other well-planned cities around the country that I am very familiar with always was my goal.

    Norwalk deserves the best planning we can get, especially now as we begin an unprecedented growth spurt that needs professional guidance, or we may be looking at decades of trying to fix what could have been solved now through smart decision making and respect, not disdain for, modern professional planning concepts.

    Happy New Year!

  10. Art Scialabba

    Nancy – et al.

    My letter to Mayor Rilling was in response to the numerous allegations of “corruption,” nothing to do with Mr. Greene’s credentials. Commentators seem obsess with diversionary tactics and red-herrings. If a former commissioner knows of corruption, shouldn’t our Mayor investigate?

    1. Mark Chapman

      Art…

      The article has been in the works for many weeks. We had to wait for Mr. Hibson to get up to speed in his office, then we got tied up with elections, mosques, and other things. Some weeks back we FOI’d the applications/resumes of the staff people to answer the questions repeatedly raised by Mr. Mushak regarding qualifications. We had not planned to run the story until after the first of the year — you know, give people (including us) a break from the negativity during the holidays. Your letter changed that. The issues you talked about that were raised by Mr. Mushak are in the works and will be discussed soon. Perhaps you can answer a question for us: As Mr. Mushak has been talking about these things since at least early 2013, why did you not call for the former mayor to investigate? As the then-chairman of the RTC, you surely had some clout.

  11. Kathleen Montgomery

    @ Tim D: A witch hunt: An investigation carried out ostensibly to uncover subversive activities but actually used to harass and undermine those with differing views.

    Who is doing this? NON? Mike Mushak? It would be helpful to know who is harassing whom? It seems to me that shedding light on a problem that matters to every resident of Norwalk is hardly a witch hunt. Could you elaborate on this charge?

    @Linda: How does 30 years of experience trump a degree in a specialized field like urban planning, engineering and other positions where keeping current through 3 decades is expected with those having a degree? All professional degrees require some sort of certification and regular recertification in order to keep up with professional expectations.

    Why should Norwalk expect less than the best for the salaries and perks paid to Mr. Greene? I really don’t understand why regular performance evaluations are not conducted. Oh, I understand the history of why this is the case, but so what? We will remain in this quagmire until somebody steps up to the plate with the guts and power to do this. Mike Mushak has the guts and has the power of the people, but sadly this is not enough.

  12. EveT

    @Art, I agree there’s an important difference between lack of qualifications/credentials and corruption. As a taxpayer, I’m not happy with either one. Corruption, if proven, would likely be grounds for dismissal, whereas lack of qualifications/credentials is just a shame and may be something taxpayers can’t do anything about.
    I am favorably impressed by Dori Wilson’s qualifications/credentials as described in this article. I can imagine how her superiors could view her as a threat. But that too is a side issue.

  13. Suzanne

    Let’s say this was about education: would it be acceptable to the City of Norwalk to have a superintendent with very few relevant credentials that were between 20 and 30 years old? With no relevant Continuing Education Units? With no training in current education practices (and they have changed a lot in 30 years?)

    Does anyone perceive how much Urban Planning and Zoning has changed since the 1970’s? Thirty years of on the job experience does not make a practitioner more knowledgeable about their field. It simply means they lasted along time without the knowledge they need to do an adequate (Norwalk deserves much better) job in the 21st Century.

    There are very few administrative jobs left in City governance that have not changed since the 70’s and the more responsibility, the more the administrator should be educating themselves about those changes.

    I find it shocking that no ongoing education was recorded as pursued by Mr. Greene given the very important task which he has. Any professional organizations regularly consulted? Heck, any magazine subscriptions about Planning and Zoning in Urban areas that are actually read with the concepts applied?

    I know that all of the above requirements are part of licensure in similar professions. Without them, licenses cannot be renewed and the practitioner is out of business.

    Why would Norwalk accept less than what is required of their superintendent of education for such an important role in the current and future of the City as Planning and Zoning?

  14. Michael McGuire

    @ Linda Almonet

    I would agree with you that 30 years of experience could balance a lack of a professional degree IF that was demonstrated with a history of sound planning guidance. But you only need look at Wall Street, in economic stagnation for 4 decades, to know something is wrong.

    Add in a host of this year’s hot topics – BJ’s, the mosque, Rowayton waterfront, AMEC, POKO, Duleep’s blighted buildings, etc. and you begin to see an undeniable pattern of poor planning. All which could have been mitigated with the right experience in the P&Z wheelhouse.

    Now we have new issues such as Manresa Island, integration of the mall into the broader fabric of Norwalk, the surprising increased school enrollment due to large # of new units coming on line, the NPA’s policies that are punitive to business development, Washington Village, and the revitalization of the Wall Street neighborhood among others. These are all challenging issues that need dedicated attention so we don’t create more decades of indifference and/or squander opportunities. Although I don’t think “decades of indifference” could happen again with NoN giving voice to the many Norwalk Citizens committed to making Norwalk a better place.

    Most importantly, since the ZC and the other Commissions are made up of ordinary people. Don’t you think it wise to have qualified, experienced professionals advising them on the pros and cons of the major decisions they are required to make?

    In my experience Mike Greene is a competent Zoning guy but he has not demonstrated the same competence in the planning arena. And that lack of competence has cost Norwalk millions of dollars in lost tax revenues.

  15. Mike Mushak

    Great discussion. I have always said it is as absurd not to have professional certified planners on our PLANNING and Zoning staff as it is not to have engineers in DPW, lawyers in our Legal Dept, certified teachers in our schools, and accountants in out Finance Dept. Just as examples. Planning is a profession, and the Amercan Planning Association is who certifies the profession and requires continuing education just as I am required to have as a professional landscape architect. The APA lists no certified planners in our P and Z Department, including Dori Wilson.

    Art Scialabba, if a former commissioner knows of corruption, it is up to the Zoning Chair to investigate as that is where the responsibility to supervise the P and Z staff lies according to the Charter , by-laws, and Organizational Chart . I would advise you to sit down with Joe Santo and ask him why he refuses to hold the staff accountable for their behavior, including threatening the commission with legal action if we even discuss reviewing his performance, where Mr Santo sat silent and never acted on that. Is that because Mr. Santo promoted Mr Greene into his position over 20 years ago without ever checking his professional credentials, as Mr. Santo admitted? I would also argue that the qualifications of public servants paid generously by taxpayers, including guaranteed raises every year unlike the private sector, are not a secret to the public as the staff had argued by refusing to release their up to date credentials as we still don’t have. Isn’t that a form of corruption in and of itself? If you don’t think so, then your sense of accountability and transparency by public servants is deeply flawed.

    I would think any fiscal conservative would be all over getting the best value for our taxpayer investment, which is what this discussion is about among other things.

    Waste and abuse of taxpayer money including ignoring millions of dollars of studies that we all paid for with our sky high property tax is corruption, in my mind and in the minds of many concerned citizens.

    You are clearly barking up the wrong tree by ignoring Joe Santo’s role in all this. To quote the bible here, you are looking for a splinter in your neighbors eye while ignoring the log in your own.

    Last, I just want to make a minor correction of one word to my first comment above as it changes the meaning of a paragraph: 6th paragraph, last word should “replaced” instead of “incorporated.”

    Editor’s note: That comment has been changed as of 3:45 p.m. to reflect your correction)

  16. Mike Mushak

    If you are curious what professional planners do, check out this link to the APA website. You can see that little of what is described actually occurs on Norwalk.

    https://www.planning.org/aboutplanning/whatisplanning.htm#2

    One reason there are so many who want my head on a platter is that the City Charter requires the Planning Commission to actually plan all development in the city and work closely with the
    community and coordinate other commissions and departments. At the last Zoning hearing, Zoning Chair Joe Santo said he saw no need to have the planning and zoning commissions work more closely together. This is the opposite of what Norwalk needs, and what is specifically recommended in the Master Plan and City Charter. This is not a matter of “style” of leadership, but a complete lack of leadership on the part of Joe Santo, Mike Greene (who is staff to both commissions and plays them off each other as well as discourages them to interact as the evidence will show), and Torgny Agstrom who is a nice enough guy but who never has challenged Mike Greene or read the Charter to understand what the PC’s crucial and real responsibilities are. That is why we have no planning in Norwalk as the link above describes. I call that corruption of process. What do you call it?

    That is why Scialabba wants to take me out, as I have challenged the dysfunctional status quo that has run this city into the ground for decades. The irony is that the smart folks in City Hall and all over the city know exactly what I am talking about, and the boomerang Scialabba threw at me is going to hit him hard when everyone realizes that the status quo have done nothing so far to change the broken code that gave is the mosque and BJ’s that turned the city upside down and pitted neighbor against neighbor.

    This is what happens when you have cronyism and promote unqualified people into important positions, a remnant of an old system that is no longer working for any of us, as the evidence on the record reveals.

    The hysterical part of this is that there are those few like Scialabba who still claim I am making all this up, as if the emperor is fully clothed after the whole world knows the emperor has no clothes.

    Just read the link above and weep for all of us.
    The buck stops at the Chairs of the Planning and Zoning Commissions . Watch this space.

  17. Kevin Di Mauro

    I don’t like Mike Greene, and I’m sure he isn’t doing the most perfect job on planet earth, but if I had to choose between him and Mike Mushack, I would choose Mike Greene.

  18. Mike Mushak

    Kevin, this isn’t a contest. It’s about getting top performance for the top dollar we are paying. The lack of qualifications wouldn’t even be as big an issue if it wasn’t combined with a system of scheming and manipulation that routinely plays petty games with Norwalk’s businesses and residents. That corrupt system is the real issue here.

    Just 2 weeks ago, the Zoning Chair Joe Santo worked secretly with staff behind the scenes, and without any knowledge of the other commissioners did an end run around the committee process (unethical to say the least) to come up with a surprise amendment at the hearing to gut a much needed business friendly zone change was being voted on that night, years overdue.

    The commercial real estate community along with a very large number of property owners and contractors as well as land use lawyers and other professionals had begged for this business-friendly zone change for years including a petition with perhaps over a hundred signatures, but Greene just ignored them for years until I finally had to push the issue for them.

    I made compromises and worked with both sides of the the aisle on the commission to get these zone changes through, that any property rights supporter and business-friendly citizen would have been proud of as it simplified a draconian and ridiculous process and code that no other city in our area had, stifling small local contractors to find legitimate affordable space while lots of properties remained empty or underutilized, even blighted, around the city.

    We finally had a vote ready to pass it with full support from both sides of the aisle when Santo threw out a surprise amendment to basically gut the proposal, with bogus research staff had done to make it seem like it only affected a few properties when it affected the entire Business 2 zones across the city containing hundreds of properties. This was not the first time this has happened.

    The surprise move from Santo and the staff that was never discussed in committee was so sleazy that almost the entire commission regardless of party affiliation protested immediately, and as Santo continued to push his lie about the number of properties affected (with staff’s help) I was forced to speak up from the audience that this was completely unacceptable and was simply nasty retaliation.

    Santo was ready to throw years of hard work with much public support under the bus with a blatant lie he was telling to manipulate the commission into supporting his corrupt proposal. I say corrupt because it was not done with any commission input and went against the consensus of two public hearings where many real estate experts and property owners and contractors spoke for it.

    This is only one example of many. I call it corruption because that’s what it is, and the only way it will stop is for both parties to demand full accountability for the staff, for the by-laws and charter to be followed, and for Santo to step down ASAP for going completely off the rails. Then we can really start to talk about much needed zoning reform and accountability.

  19. Nora King

    I am on vacation and am not going to put a full reply. Every senior level person should have clear goals and be evaluated every year. Mike Greene has not had a performance evaluation in years. I disagree with Art Scialabba regarding Mike Greene. Though I have only been on the zoning commission a short time – it is clear there are no goals set for this department. It is manipulated by having silos set and there is no management of the Director. Why should city employees be treated differently than a corporate employee who has clear expectations and is at typical “work at will.”. Mike Greene doesn’t have the planning background that this city needs. Norwalk has been losing to other towns and cities due to this lack of planning. Managing a zone book is different than having long term strategic planning skills. Based on the City Charter and the current organization chart Mike Greene reports to the zoning commission and we need to hold him accountable. Under Joe Santos leadership he has refused to perform employees evaluation and hold Mike Greene accountable. The city of Norwalk deserves so much more than what we have. I realize by being so vocal I may not be reappointed but I have to be 100% honest when I say Norwalk deserves better than Mike Greene.

  20. John Hamlin

    Again, I wonder why no one brings forth any facts to contradict what Mr Mushak is saying. Some have said we are hearing only one side of the story — well, start with the performance evaluations. Is Mr Greene exempt from them or does anyone have the authority to evaluate his work and hold him accountable? Is it the Zoning Commission or isn’t it? Mr Mushak points to the city charter. Does it control? If not, what does? (And I think we deserve something more than a former politically appointed corporate Counsel’s ancient pronouncement.). What legal document controls?

    This should not be a partisan struggle — it’s so odd that it’s taken on that tone. Shouldn’t every city employee be evaluated every year and held accountable? Hard to imagine most Republicans or Democrats would disagree with that.

    Don’t we all want the best planning for the future of our city? Don’t we owe that to ourselves and future residents?

  21. Art Scialabba

    Mark –

    During the Moccia administration, I know former Zoning chairwoman Emily Wilson had actually looked into some of the issues that Mr. Mushak has been writing about and she had even brought some issues up to Corporation Counsel for review. But we had a change in Zoning leadership as well as change in administrations. Recently, Mr. Mushak has been on a tirade about “corruption.”

    Having a new administration in charge now, if we have proven corruption by people, it is beholden for Mr. Mushak to clearly (let me say that again, clearly) explain it and for the Mayor to take action to remediate it.

  22. Bill Nightingale, Jr

    You all very kind to the Redevelopment Agency in all this discussion. Can anyone tell me why they should exist? Or name a single thing they have accomplished that justifies their existence as an autonomous entity?

  23. Oldtimer

    If the City has a long established policy of NOT evaluating job performance at certain levels of employment, trying to get Mike Greene evaluated when no other dept. heads are similarly evaluated except ones with short term contracts and even with them (fire chief, police chief, school superintendent,for example) there doesn’t seem to be any clear, non-political process. When Mike was hired, he met qualifications for his job. As no change in qualifications for that job has ever been established by the council, criticizing him for what some think SHOULD be required qualifications makes interesting chatter and accomplishes nothing.

    I am not taking sides, for or against Mike Greene, I am merely pointing out that venting frustration here with an outdated, inefficient process, and a department head that has never been required to change, is a waste of time. If the council were to adopt a law (charter change ? ) that required planning educational credentials for Mike’s job, it could NOT be retroactive and would only apply to future heads of his department. If the council decided to send him back to school, at City expense, to get some formal planning education, there is no reason he could not retire the day after he graduated.

    The problem is NOT Mike Greene, it is the commission he works for. He will pretty much do what it asks, as it has the power to give orders and enforce them. As certain terms expire, people who subscribe to this administration’s beliefs will be appointed, and Mike Greene will follow the orders he gets from that commission. There are ways a mayor might possibly speed up that process, but they will not likely happen.

  24. John Hamlin

    Clearly we need charter reform and a total reorganization of city departments, and thereby defund and eliminate inefficiencies. The city should have no obligation to employ anyone in perpetuity. Any large organization needs some reorganization now and then. Norwalk deserves a reorganized city government.

  25. Kevin Di Mauo

    @old timer

    You have some good comments.

    If you could express them with fewer words it would be nice.

    Happy Trails !!

  26. cc-rider

    @Oldtimer- I don’t buy your rationale about the ZC being the issue. Using your analogy- Dr Rivera would only be as good as the BOE that he had to work with????? Clearly, he was a qualified LEADER and was able to make changes within the school system despite working with a contentious BOE.

  27. jill st. john

    I am sure that Mr. Greene and I would disagree on much with regard to Norwalk and its growth or no-growth, but he always strives to help and offer solutions and, in a user friendly way, Ive also found Mr. Wrinn to be equally customer friendly and helpful. Having dealt with some folks who “serve” and found them unpleasant at best and many times downright rude, knowing there are these men to help you manage the intricacies, with kindness and care is a great relief. I guess unless you treat the citizen trying to build, change or fix something with contempt some folks will never be happy. I hope we allow these 2 gentlemen to continue to serve us, they both know this city quite well, and also understand what it is like to try to get things done. Both seem to understand they are here to serve the citizens and I am thankful they are reasonable and polite.

  28. Secondhand Rose

    Since Mr. Mushak is a former P&Z member, I suggest that he undergo exactly the same type of investigation as he is requiring for Mr. Greene. After all, Mushak worked under Greene for a number of years, therefore as a former member of the P&S he’s just as culpable as Mr. Greene is, since Mushak voted to pass many of Mr. Greene’s motions.

    1. Mark Chapman

      @Secondhand Rose

      Zoning Commission members don’t serve under the P&Z director. He serves under them, according to the city charter. And The P&Z director does not make motions. He is not an elected, voting member of the commission.

  29. Nora King

    The organizational chart and the bylaws as well as city charter have the Director of Zoning reporting to the zoning commission. It has been the leadership under Joe Santo to not do performance evaluations on Mike Greene.

    NOONE should have a job paid for by the city of Norwalk unless there are clear goals and a performance evaluation done each year. This needs to be done and right now that falls under the authority of the zoning commission. This is poor city management at its finest. How does a Director be allowed to be paid for the city of Norwalk not have yearly evaluations done?

  30. WHAT!!!

    How they do it Nora is cronyism!

  31. WHAT!!!

    @ secondhand rose
    You dislike Mushak so much you miss the point of this conversation, the people currently in charge are screwing up our city, please pay attention.

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