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Norwalk Republicans: Chiaramonte’s words ‘inappropriate’

Board of Education member Jack Chiaramonte
Board of Education member Jack Chiaramonte speaks Monday at the Norwalk Police headquarters.

NORWALK, Conn. – The Norwalk Republican Town Committee sympathizes with Board of Education member Jack Chiaramonte but does not condone the way he has been addressing the public in the past few days, RTC Chairman Peter Torrano said.

“We believe that Jack’s method of communicating, as I read it on the blog just now, was inappropriate, although some portions of it are not completely without merit. His method of communicating is not condoned by the RTC,” Torrano said Tuesday night.

Chiaramonte’s comments on another website have made their way to the NancyOnNorwalk comments section.

They were first brought to light by LWitherspoon, who posted here Chiarmonte’s online response to a commenter who said he should resign: “Hey Walter, keep you’re hilarious! Thanks for advise to resign, but your racist friends already asked. I’ll tell you what I told them, “Go Fry Ice! Ain’t happening! Speaking of ice, put some more in your glass and pour yourself a nice tall glass of “Shut Your Ignorant Mouth Up”!! Bottom ups! (Hint: Aim for the gaping hole on your face, the one below your nose.)”

“With all the attention paid to the three controversial board members, I’m surprised that there has not been more focus on Jack Chiaramonte’s recent comments,” Lwitherspoon wrote. “… I am greatly appreciative of the work that Chiaramonte has done to control costs, but his recent childish and insulting comments reflect badly on the entire BoE and NPS. Most of all they reflect badly on Chiaramonte himself. I believe that Chiaramonte should resign or not be re-nominated for election. Let’s encourage both of Norwalk’s political parties to work for a more calm, respectful, and collaborative BoE.”

“To make those type of comments on a public forum, as a current public official, well, leaves much to be desired measuring by professionalism and maturity,” a commenter named “Grandma” said. “Dont think the issue is racism, per say on any side. Think what the issues are lies in maturity and egos. Mandating all future incoming board members to attend workshops that define the responsibilities and help members develop progressive working relationship skills will go a long way to help us all focus on the tasks at hand, which is, to remind everyone, to Make Norwalk Public Schools an outstanding progressive organization that leaves no child behind, none, white, black, brown, impoverished, nor students that require specialized education.”

“Donald Trump” came to Chiaramonte’s defense. “Jack C may be rough around the edges. But the facts are the local NAACP leader is making a mockery of this city bringing in Al Sharpton to promote a drug dealing pimp who was stealing from the city. Today, he is a central figure in running a well qualified education executive out of town that may well end up costing this city tens of millions in lost grant funding,” the commenter said.

Asked about it Monday, Chiaramonte said he is upset by comments made by Norwalk Branch NAACP President Darnell Crosland and BoE member Shirley Mosby, whose complaint to the NAACP fired up Chiaramonte in July.

“She alleges that the African-American and Hispanic female board members are subject to continual intimidation, harassment, disrespect, exclusion, discrimination, lack of transparency and not being informed, and subject to disparate treatment,” Brenda Penn-Williams said to the board on July 1.

In response, Chiaramonte several days later called Mosby “the girl who cried black.”

Mosby has not provided evidence to back up her complaint and has not met with Mayor Harry Rilling to discuss it despite his attempts, Rilling said.

“Ask them. Don’t you think we need an answer from these people? Where’s my answer?” Chiaramonte said Monday.

He referred to the arrest of Tanya McDowell in 2011 for enrolling her son in Norwalk Public Schools, although she lived in Bridgeport.

“You parade around, you take a woman who you call a homeless black woman, and you trash the city, you trash it. You give the city a black eye, so much so that it is publicized on the national news, because they don’t have facts. How quick they are to rush to judgment. Does this sound familiar? Does this look familiar?” Chiaramonte said, holding his hands up with that last line like the protesters in Ferguson and around the nation.

“Everything is predicated on lies, that don’t exist. And then what do they do? Have meetings, rallies, and then the truth comes out later. This is like ‘shoot first and ask questions later.’ They talk about the police? Well, that’s what they did. They shoot first and ask questions later and find out the truth later on,” Chiaramonte said.

He explained further.

“What you read is city officials here, people who represent the city, need to get their facts straight,” Chiaramonte said. “I am talking about Mr. Crosland, I am talking about Ms. Mosby, to put out accusations that they have no proof. I think it’s your job … to back up what they say before you make it a headline. Mosby: ‘Oh, they’re racist, they’re this, they’re that, blah, blah-blah-blah-blah.’ … Just by saying it you accuse us. That’s what I’m saying, they don’t have anything to back it up with.”

Chiaramonte said he has not decided if he will seek re-election in the fall.

Torrano said Tuesday night that he had just talked to Chiaramonte.

“I expressed our concerns and how we expect elected members of the Republican Party to behave,” Torrano said. “Jack explained to me that he is very upset with some of the postings he had received on his Facebook and some of the personal attacks he has had to suffer on the Board of Education.”
He continued, “All that said, and understood by us, and in a big way we sympathize with Jack in his position as we do with others on the Board of Education, but again, we do not condone in the manner in which Jack responded to these people. Our thinking is it could have been done in a more factual and straight forward manner.”

Comments

34 responses to “Norwalk Republicans: Chiaramonte’s words ‘inappropriate’”

  1. srb

    He poisons the well. He gets nasty remarks on his facebook, etc…and as BOE chair and wonders why? And then posts nasty remarks in return? This is the face of the BOE? c’mon, Torrano gives Camacho a tough time regarding his difficult fold and that’s the best Torrano can say? Where’s the moral high ground?

  2. Norewalk Lifer

    Correction, LWitherspoon didn’t bring that comment to this discussion, WowJustWow did thru a link and I posted the excerpt first.

    You don’t address what is alarming in that quote Mr. Torrano, what “exactly” did Jack mean by “special”?

    He can be upset all he wants, but when you infer an insult, by using what is considered a normal adjective to describe people who are intellectually challenged, it’s only natural to be asked.

    What were you talking about?

    That has NOTHING, NOTHING, to do with the subject at hand, while it’s great sport to shout down a detractor, it is NOT acceptable, not in any decent person’s mind, to use a description of handicapped people as an insult.

    That makes my blood boil!

    Regards
    Norwalk Lifer

  3. Norewalk Lifer

    And before it disappears, here’s the ENTIRE quote here

    Hey Walter, keep you’re hilarious! Thanks for advise to resign, but your racist friends already asked. I’ll tell you what I told them, “Go Fry Ice! Ain’t happening!”
    Speaking of ice, put some more in your glass and pour yourself a nice tall glass of “Shut Your Ignorant Mouth Up”!! Bottom ups!
    (Hint: Aim for the gaping hole on your face, the one below your nose.)
    Yes Walter, I know you have several gaping holes in your bead! It explains why your head whistles every time the wind blows. Enjoy!

    Ahh, Norwalk lifer is back with nothing but dumb insults to flatulate from his mouth. Explains why evelry thing he says, stinks!
    Hey Walter!, I think Norwalk Loafer has been nipping from your glass again. Apparently he thinks our Dr. Rivera left because of me. Wow! That’s truly precious! Yeah, that must be it. Tell us Loafer, what color are the trees in your world?

    Now, READ this portion of the response, the intro, and the finale, WHAT EXACTLY DID JACK MEAN?

    3rd grade insults? I know far more than that. But it seems you only know up to 3rd grade insults because that as far as your mentality goes. Now why don’t you and Walter go study some more big boy words, so maybe, just maybe I can insult you with 4th & 5th grade insults next time. Who knows? May come a day when you can work your way up to high school insults. But judging by your posts, that probably won’t happen. You & Walter are truly “special” and you have proven to me “Ignorance is bliss”! Now off with the both of you, go feed your unicorns in your magical place. And Bless your heart Loafer, Walter.

    FACT: I am NOT the Norwalk Lifer that responded to Jack in this discussion, whether or not he thinks that someone is a “loafer” has no consequence.

    But Pete, you’d better find out WHY Jack decided to tout his own intellect, encourage the writers to up their game to 4th grade insults, and end with “you must be special”

    What in the hell did he mean by that???????

    Get your own house in order Pete, including your inability to manage the election of a registar WITHOUT THE CHARACTER ASSASINATION like Karen Lyons Doyle, before you start slinging arrows at this mayor.

    If Rilling made an attempt to meet with the three on the board, and your intent here is to show how rapidly the RTC can “fix” their problems, I would like to know

    Why didn’t you demand a public apology from Jack? not because of his inability to debate, but an apology for what everyone knows is an unforgivable insult!!!!!!! to handicapped people!!!!!

  4. Donald Trump

    The differences couldn’t be more clear.

    Republican leadership takes action where inappropriate behaviors may have happened.

    Democrat leadership is mostly silent on assaults, arrests, tax delinquents, and throwing the race card when you don’t get your way or when it promotes someone’s personal ambitions.

    You’re fired.

  5. piberman

    Mayor Rilling’s silence on discrimination charges against the BOE made by 3 Democratic BOE members 6 months ago – a crime – speaks volumes about standards of behavior by Norwalk Democrats and their commitment to quality education. At least Republicans understand the difference and so far their officials haven’t been arrested. Imagine if Democrats controlled both the Council and BOE. D

  6. Bill

    Did he do anything to hurt the education of children? no
    Did he do anything to hurt funding education? no
    Did he do anything to hurt Mosby’s family’s janitorial union fiefdom? yes
    Did he do anything to cause Riviera to love? no

    Therefore, non-story, move along

  7. MarjorieM

    Once again, where is the dignity afforded any Board member in this city? Meet with the man privately and let him either change or resign. A good teacher never chastises a student in front of the other students. S/He takes them to the hallway or tells them to wait behind after class to let the student know what was wrong. If support doesn’t work, off to the principal’s office. It’s just wrong to publicly “tar and feather” individuals. Stop the “New Norwalk Tar and Feather Way.”

  8. Oldtimer

    Jack will be fondly remembered for the passion he brings to his position on the BOE. Unfortunately, he dilutes what little good he does when he slips into street fighter mode, with a street fighter’s limited vocabulary. How does he possibly survive in any business that requires accommodating paying customers ? This is far from the first time he slipped into street fighter language. Maybe he would benefit from an anger management course. His heart may well be in the right place, but it is hard to see past his street language.

    First thing he needs to learn is: Don’t take it all so personal, Jack. Some of your critics are the same people who have nothing good to say about people well known for their unfailing good manners.

  9. Mike Mushak

    This article highlights the fact that there have been plenty of sins to go around on both sides of the aisle. Jack certainly speaks his mind and although I don’t agree with a lot of what he says, I do like him as a person as he has worked hard to make Norwalk better over many years, but it is clear he could use some help in how he expresses himself publicly for sure!

    Jack does have his heart in the right place which is to help Norwalk kids, as do all the elected members of the BOE regardless of race or background. It is clear the RTC Chair is trying to make a grand statement here, that he takes public stands against dissidents and the mayor doesn’t, with the predictable Greek chorus of Mr. Berman and others always willing to jump in and add their two cents worth.

    The truth is, the mayor has his own style of leadership that is clearly not impulsive and “in your face”, that respects community perceptions as much as real events as they are equally important, and prefers to work more quietly behind the scenes as there are very sensitive and deep issues at work here.

    It is NOT in the best interest of the city or our kids for the mayor to make a lot of noise possibly creating more racial divisions (even if they are perceived divisions) and rancor as the RTC seems much less cautious about (perhaps to exploit the racial divisions for their own benefit). Whether the actions of some board members were warranted or not is not the issue anymore. Rivera left for personal reasons as he has said many times, there have been perceptions of racism even if not backed up by facts at this point, and in minority communities perceptions matter a lot as most racial issues are based as much on perception or appearances as they are on action. If the perception existed of racism on the BOE, it should have been handled carefully and with respect instead of being ignored and treated like it doesn’t matter. What on earth was Mike Lyons (who I respect and admire) thinking by ignoring this most important issue of race on our BOE even if it was based on dubious claims like he and many others thought? Did he think this was a wise move for all the kids and teachers and residents all over the city watching this fiasco unfold?

    Continuing the nasty personal attacks on the mayor as Mr. Torrano seems determined to do no matter what the cost to the city in terms of keeping this sensitive matter in the news cycle, just to score cheap points against his own personal nemesis, the mayor himself (overlooked promotion in the distant past of the NPD he refuses to let go of, by some accounts), is not helping the rest of us at all get through this difficult time in our community. I live in South Norwalk, and the good folks of this community of all races and economic levels are scared for the future and scared for our kids. Healing these deep wounds are what matter most, not promoting them and turning them into an issue to exploit for personal and political gain.

    I suspect most Norwalk residents are like me and want nothing more than to heal and move on in a bipartisan fashion. I know most of the reasonable GOP and Dem Common Councilmembers and the mayor want this as we cant undo what has been done. This is a time for steady leadership and calls for healing our community like we are getting from Mayor Rilling, especially considering what is happening on a national scene with racial divisions and concern about widespread injustice. . Will the RTC join this effort or is their strategy to continue to throw all caution to the wind and recklessly promote anger and fear at this sensitive time in our community and in our city’s history? I pray to God it is not the latter, as we have always been better than this in our long 400-year history of tolerance and diversity.

  10. Notaffiliated

    The easiest way to get the BOE to act with civility would be to have the student government leaders from NHS and Brian McMahon attend the meetings. Instead of all of the party affiliated folks who comment on here or in public, we’d have the appropriate constituents commenting. I’ve watched some of the online video footage – inform the kids and they can put their editorials out for public consumption.

    Also, can someone please tell me the alignment of BOE members to areas of Norwalk?

  11. piberman

    As long as City officials do not demand an investigation into public charges made 6 months that the entire BOE discriminates against 3 members why should we expect any civil discourse in our City ? Doesn’t anyone want yo learn the validity of those charges ? If valid doesn’t anyone want to take corrective measures ? If not valid shouldn’t that be determined so we can move on ? Why doesn’t the mayor and NAACP President Crossland want these charges properly investigated ? Some other motive at play here ? Why aren’t the 3 BOE members demanding an investigation ? Don’t they care about remediation ? Justice ? Or merely demonstrating their frustration if a BOE not under Democrat control as in decades past ?
    What would a new Supt candidate think about the unwillingness to investigate these charges ?
    Does their non resolution make Norwalk attractive opportunity ? Or just the opposite ?

  12. Mike, permit me some clarification (sorry for the length) in relation to your statements “I am not excusing or defending the charges of racism by 3 black BOE members as that was an extreme move, but it happened, and the way it was handled by the BOE leadership which was to ignore it was just as open to criticism … As much as I respect Mike Lyons and his accomplishments, he could have handled the racism charges differently, from a place of healing instead of a place of indifference.”

    I know you are focused on other issues in town than education, so you may not have all the background here.

    People often comment on the need to understand people’s reactions based on their cultural or personal experiences; this is a valid point. But it’s also a point that applies to me. My experience with Ms. Mosby (the filer of the false racism charge against me) started at the first BoE meeting of this term (in November, 2013), where she famously remarked after my re-election as Chair that she was going to “pull every white hair out of [Lyons’] head.” When asked if she thought that was an appropriate remark, she doubled down, stating “If Mike Lyons sitting there and crying about that then he needs to give up the chairmanship right away,” Mosby said. “I did not want him to swear us in and he got attitude.”

    Now, how did I respond to this (to put it mildly, “uncivil”) behavior by Ms. Mosby? As I noted in another post, “My initial response was an attempt to brush it off and be conciliatory; as NON reported, “Members were surprised by Mosby’s behavior, Lyons said. “They didn’t view that as characteristic of Shirley,” he said. “So I’m very sort of counting that off as when you are angry you say things that you regret later” (https://norwalkcurrent.com/2013/11/new-board-has-rough-start-as-dem-majority-boe-re-elects-gop-chairman). In short, I didn’t “ignore” this, but rather chose the “place of healing approach”. It was not reciprocated.

    In December of last year I asked all Board members for their preferred committee assignments. As Chair, I have complete discretion as to which appointments I will make. What I did, among other appointments made in January of 2014, was to appoint the three dissenting Board members (Ms. Mosby, Ms. Rivas and Ms. Murray) to every single committee position they requested. As an olive branch, I even offered the Chairmanship of one of our most important committees – Finance – to Rosa Murray (even though she had just contested me for the chairmanship). I went with the “place of healing” approach. It was not reciprocated.

    When we went through the superintendent search process in 2012-2013, I organized the most extensive community outreach process ever engaged in for a superintendent search in Norwalk. I appointed several representatives of Norwalk’s minority community – including Ms. Murray – to the search committee. I carefully included all the members of the Board (including the dissenters) in every step of the process, made sure all members had all documents, made sure all members were included in every interview, every meeting, and could ask every question they wanted of each candidate. This extensive effort to include everyone, including the dissenters, in the selection process, was not reciprocated – in fact, Ms. Murray falsely claimed (as she refused to vote in favor of hiring Dr. Rivera) that she had been “excluded” from the process.

    While Chair, I have organized three Board of Ed “retreats”, two during the last term (each attended by Ms. Murray and Ms. Rivas), one in this term (attended by all three dissenters). These were constructive meetings where we discussed proper Board governance policies (especially the need to avoid micromanagement), and agreed on our Strategic Plan. These efforts of mine to find common ground from the “place of healing”, alas, have also gone unreciprocated for, as the dissenters since then have regularly opposed the implementation of the very Strategic Plan they had endorsed, and have continuously engaged in public micromanagement of the superintendent at Board meetings (as referenced in multiple articles on NON).

    Into this milieu, last summer, came the racism charges. I hope you will understand my reaction thereto in the context of this history. Having tried the “healing place” over and over and over again without success, trying it again did not strike me as a strategy likely to succeed. When the complainant and the NAACP decided to go public with the charges (stating at a public meeting that I was guilty of the charges) before I had even been given a chance to respond, I simply said “show me the evidence”. I denied being a racist (because I am not), and I refused to be drawn into a show trial in front of a group that had already ‘convicted’ me without a trial when no one could point to a single piece of evidence that I had done anything wrong (other than disagreeing with the dissenters, which to some apparently itself constitutes “racism”). Mike, in modern America, perhaps the most serious charge you can make against a public official is “racism”; and I was wrongly subjected to it (not in an off-hand comment, but in a planned complaint and a well-orchestrated playing out of that complaint in public, albeit without any supporting evidence).

    EVEN WITH all that, however, I STILL agreed to make one more try at the “healing place”, accepting Mayor Rilling’s offer to mediate. The dissenters, five months later, have never gotten back to the Mayor on his similar offer to them.

    So trust me, I have not shown “indifference” to the racism charges nor “ignored” them. I also have a long history of trying “the healing place” and being rebuffed, and even tried it again AFTER the racism charges were made, only to have to other side rebuff it again. I just want you to understand how extensively I’ve tried to reach out, albeit without success, and why I am not sanguine about the likelihood of success of further such efforts.

  13. Lisa Thomson

    Mike Mushak – Perhaps you should get together with Mike Lyons over a drink and compare BOE and P&Z Board member stories regarding roles, positions, relationships and experiences with Norwalk employes and staff. It would be a very long night. You both would have ALOT to talk about!

  14. Tim D

    @Mike Mushak – in this hyper-sensitve partisan world that we live in one side always goes after the other. That’s how it is now. You, Mike Mushak, have been a leader in this sort of behavior. I don’t know you personally – but have read plenty of your posts in past to have an opinion on it. When you made Mayor Moccia public enemy # 1 during the last campaign it was your right to do so, Bruce Morris, then Joe Santo and your petty differences with him and now Mike Greene. Or when you called Tom Foley a gun loving nut (paraphrasing) There’s probably a few that I am missing. I don’t defend any of the above mentioned but wonder why it was Okay for you to practice that sort of approach why is it irresponsible for Mr Torrano?

    Mr Mushak – I agree with you on Jack C’s behavior, it’s unacceptable but what of the 3 dissidents? What say you?

    It’s how you anti- partisans work. You don’t cross aisle No. Matter. what.

  15. Bruce Kimmel

    Politically active people do a disservice to the city when political affiliation clouds intellectual consistency. Put differently, what’s good for zoning should be good for the BOE. Or: It’okay to blast planning and zoning but when it comes to folks of the same political affiliation on the BOE… Need I say more?

  16. LWitherspoon

    @Nancy

    Thank you for shining a light on Mr. Chiaramonte’s comments.

    Norewalk Lifer is correct. I learned of the comments from WoWJustWoW linking to them and felt it was important that everyone at NoN see the inappropriate tone and language.

    I would like to see leaders of both parties commit to the public that during the next election cycle they will only nominate candidates who have a track record of calm, respectful, and collaborative work as elected officials. The RTC should not renominate Jack Chiaramonte, and the DTC should find candidates to represent the minority communities who generate more light than heat.

  17. EveT

    @Notaffiliated, you asked about the alignment of BOE members to areas of Norwalk. It’s not self-explanatory, though the BOE members and their term dates are on the city website
    http://norwalkct.org/index.aspx?NID=1031

    At-large candidates were elected in 2013 and their terms expire in 2017: Sherelle Harris (D), Heidi Keyes (D), Artie Kassimis (R), Shirley Mosby (D).

    In-district candidates were elected in 2011 and their terms expire this year.
    Michael Barbis (D, district E)
    Jack Chiaramonte (R, district D)
    Michael Lyons (R, district C)
    Rosa Murray (D, district A)
    Migdalia Rivas (D, district B)

    It will be important for all voters to pay attention to who is going to run in their district this year. Anyone who is not sure what district they are in (and note that the district boundaries may change every 10 years with redistricting, as well as being different from the State Rep districts) can check with the Registrar of Voters.

  18. Educator

    “Oh what fun it is to read, Jack Chairamonte’s rants.” (Sung to the music of “jingle bells”)

    I just couldn’t resist!

  19. Amanda

    I’m tired of reading about the claims of discrimination. Ms. Mosby either needs to provide the evidence or close the case and move on. How are we to move forward with this elephant in the room? And let’s try to clean it up before Dr. Riveras departure. What superintendent would want to come into this mess?
    @ Mike Lyons, I commend your patience and professionalism in this unfortunate situation.

  20. Amanda

    Mr. Chiaramonte could try to lead by example and apologize for the insensitive comments he made on a public forum. Maybe Ms. Mosby will follow.

    The circus has to stop.

  21. Mike Mushak

    Bruce Kimmel, I am really surprised you would publicly attack me for distinguishing between two wholly separate issues. Very disappointing.

    The P and Z issue involves serious ethical lapses, retaliatory moves using city staff and zoning violations against political enemies of the ZC chair, a department head that has lied to the public and to the commissions numerous times on the record as recently as last week over 1)Greene’s denial that he knew an important $200,000 2012 planning study even existed, and 2) lying to the Planning Commission to manipulate them into voting down a business-friendly zone change, the refusal to follow millions of dollars worth of plans that taxpayers have paid for, and ignorance of the city charter and the legal responsibilities that go with it including the Planning Commission’s responsibility to coordinate all development in the city (ha, funny ain’t it?), and the decades long refusal to upgrade our obsolete and broken zoning code that led to the mosque and BJ’s debacle that both followed our code.

    The BOE issue involves how we educate our kids and the specific behavior of particular members, a completely different issue that involved race and perceptions no matter how you want to spin it.

    What really concerns me is your need to compare the two issues that are comparing apples and oranges, and your need to publicly criticize me. True colors?

  22. Oldtimer

    If what Mike Lyons describes is true, then maybe racism was the wrong word and the lady doesn’t quite know how to admit in public it was a misuse of the word and did not accurately convey the message she wanted to convey.
    It may be she is committed to avoid being pinned down in a meeting with any group of witnesses that she made a mistake. She may have some legitimate reason to feel mistreated, or disrespected. I still think a one-on-one approach might work wonders. How can she justify refusing to meet with Mike in a private, one-on-one meeting ? Without an audience to play to, she might come across very differently. Most of us do. The two of you might even work out a face saving way to defuse the situation without anybody being publicly embarrassed, and then move on to a constructive relationship. The political differences will never allow for all bumps to be smoothed out, but a better personal relationship would help in doing BOE business. Your severest critic may need to consult with others in the party before she can agree, in a public meeting, to anything your party supports. She is not the first or only politician who got carried away with what she thought was a cute phrase only to realize as soon as she let the words go, they were the wrong words. That hair pulling threat was just dumb, but how do take back something like that ? Mr Sharpton frequently makes threats like that, most recently to Mayor DeBlasio, and they seem to get along fine, but some of Sharpton’s followers seem to need to hear him threaten people in power from time to time.

  23. piberman

    Why isn’t Mr Mushak concerned with determining if the public discrimination charges made by the 3 BOE members are true ? Doesn’t he think it’s important after 6 months to have resolution of misconduct charges by public officials ? Such charges embarrass our City, influenced Dr Rivera’s decision to resign and will impact our Supt search. Should we just forget about them Mr Mushak ?

  24. Susan Wallerstein

    @notaffiliated. Last August I atteneded a BOE meeting with a diverse group of high school students who were bring recognized. The ambiance was confusing and a bit disturbing. Frankly I was at a loss when asked by some of the students and their family members to explain what was going on. We did what we had come there to do and left as quickly as possible. At a loss for words when it comes to explaining this example of democracy in action. Students were clearly lost in the shuffle, their accomplishments eclipsed by adults’ needs and interests.

  25. Joanna Cooper

    The focus on the needs of the children in NPS is lost the in the news, comments and ugly politics. They need adults to model proper decorum. Personal and political agendas need to be put aside on both the republican and democrats side. The claims of discrimination against the BOE Chairman need to be investigated by an impartial agency and put to rest with a resolution ASAP. It is incomprehensible they have lingered unresolved for 6 months. Only then will NPS move forward. These claims are a huge distraction to the business of the Board of Education. A new superintendent needs to be chosen and a budget decided upon. Settle the claims and move on. No quality candidate will be attracted until this is done and the fighting will not stop. Ignoring the elephant in the room never works. Even children can understand that.

  26. Mike Mushak

    Mike Lyons, thank you for the explanation. As I said am not defending anyone’s behavior. I just hope the rancor ends soon as it is not helping the city to have it stay in the news cycle for political reasons. There is a bigger picture here we need to be aware of, which is the damage more letters and more race-charged comments will do to the kids and to the perception of Norwalk as a tolerant city. As I said, sins have been committed on both sides of the aisle.

    Mr. Berman, I absolutely think we need evidence of the charges of racism after all this time. I don’t know why that hasn’t been forthcoming. I know as much as anyone else does, which is what I read in the press. But the issue would not be in the news now if it wasn’t being obsessively repeated by folks like you to keep it going. Who is this helping at this point, exactly?

    Susan Wallerstein, I know how you feel. You should have seen the Zoning Commission meeting tonight. It’s embarrassing our city of 85,000 is run like this. Why don’t you try the Historic Commission next time? My partner is the chair and I know he would inspire the kids and make them proud of Norwalk.

  27. WOW just WOW

    Thanks Norewalk Lifer and LWitherspoon for the shout out about the link that I posted.
    With that said what I find disturbing is Mike Lyons and Mr Tarrano not calling for Chiaramonte to resign. I am really not surprised by Tarrano letting this slide , but I am shock by Mr Lyons as he seems to have the respect of most in Norwalk.

  28. sofaman

    Correct me if I am wrong, but somewhere lost in the entire BOE saga was a mention that shortly before Ms. Mosby’s infamous “every white hair” comment was made, a resolution of personal conduct was passed by the BOE?

    Surely both her and Mr. Chiaramonte’s public words are in direct violation of this policy?

    It’s been suggested that the now ubiquitous “more training” be applied to allow these people to gain specific tutoring on how to be an adult and such. Absurd.

    I’d suggest the opposite tact. If you can’t act like an adult then you’ve forfeited your opportunity to serve on something as important as a town board. End of story.

    I don’t care which side of the aisle you come from. Having simple behavioral rules that allow an immediate dismissal — JUST LIKE IN THE REAL WORLD — would certainly have an impact.

    What message are we sending the students when this behavior is tolerated?

  29. Concerned

    Wow – really seems like the entire BOE is out of control. I just hope that the children of Norwalk don’t get ‘a whiff’ of these immature comments. And these are the very people who are involved in determining district-wide initiative against ‘bullying.’ Holy smokes. There really are very few role models on the current board. Maybe the whole slate needs to cleaned and Norwalk needs to start again. Seems like there is too much ‘bad blood’ around the entire table – and the Dem-Rep aspect of this is getting to be like the Hatfields and McCoys. Certainly Norwalk has enough people who are qualified in the areas of finance/bugeting, social services, child development, parental engagement, educational policy and cultural diversity to start anew. BTW – are there term limits for BOE members? Is there a Code of Conduct that all Board Members are required to sign and abide by? Somebody mentioned in an earlier post that many of the current problems weren’t about ‘racism’ but about ‘egos’ run amok. Based on the truly embarrassing comments and posts from many BOE members on both sides of the “issues,” I’d disagree. Yep, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. G-d help Norwalk kids if these are the people deciding their futures.

  30. Concerned

    “Sorry – I should proof-read more carefully. I meant to write: “Based on the truly embarrassing comments and posts from many BOE members on both sides of the “issues, I’d AGREE.” Apologies, again.

  31. Wow – I haven’t called on Mr. Chiaramonte to resign, true; I also haven’t called on Ms. Mosby to resign. I Chair the Board, and it would be grossly inappropriate for a Chair to be calling on Board members to resign from their positions. Others in the public can express their opinions on that, and do. It is up to Mr. Chiaramonte and Ms. Mosby to respond to those opinions, not me.

    sofaman, in 2013 (responding to a recommendation made at a Board retreat I held to try to address Board issues) I proposed that the Board members endorse a “Civility Code” for the Board. The Board agreed, and all members at the time signed the Code (see http://www.norwalkps.org/common/pages/DisplayFile.aspx?itemId=3032157). The Code is “aspirational”; it has no enforcement mechanism, but is just a commitment from Board members to act civilly. Obviously that hasn’t always happened. I proposed at the beginning of this new term that the Board re-sign the Code (with its two new members, but Ms. Mosby refused to sign it, so no new one was adopted.

    Concerned, to condemn the whole Board because some of its members have behaved inappropriately is to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The Board majority, solidly backing Dr. Rivera’s reforms, has made tremendous progress for our schools in the last couple of years (see https://norwalkcurrent.com/2014/06/opinion-a-status-report-from-the-board-of-education). Good judgment doesn’t condemn the people who’ve been fighting to reform our school system along with the people who’ve been fighting against it.

  32. Inquiring Mind

    @Concerned – “Wow – really seems like the entire BOE is out of control.”

    I respectfully disagree that the ENTIRE Board is out of control. Back when the charges of racism first came out and when John Mosby went off about how Briggs was “their” (!!??) school, I sat down and watched two of the Board meeting videos. I didn’t see any of the other Board members acting out or causing a problem. I saw nothing that would indicate out of control behavior. If disruptions happened during the committee meetings, I’m sure that information would have found its way to Nancy or The Hour as they drop in on various meetings unannounced as members of the public. If the entire Board is “out of control”, give some examples backed up by evidence rather than wildly smearing people who working to provide an education for Norwalk’s children. Yes, we know Jack runs his mouth off when he gets frustrated. Other than that, let’s hear what out of control behavior Michael Barbis, Sherelle Harris, Heidi Keyes, Artie Kissimis, and Michael Lyons have engaged in. Be specific.

  33. EveT

    @Concerned, this is not a “Dem-Rep aspect…like the Hatfields and McCoys.” It is 3 Democrats (Mosby, Murray, Rivas) accusing 6 BOE members — 3 Democrats (Barbis, Harris, Keyes) and 3 Republicans (Chiaramonte, Kassimis, Lyons) — of discrimination and disparate treatment.
    Part of the “trio”‘s complaint is that their fellow Democrats (Barbis, Harris, Keyes) aren’t siding with them against the Republicans and Dr. Rivera. Among other things, they are unhappy that some of their fellow Democrats joined in voting for Mike Lyons for Chairman.
    Democrats who attended the DTC meetings during the summer can attest that the “trio” along with Brenda Penn Williams argued that for the sake of party unity no Democrat should publicly disagree with them, and that the DTC as a group should join in supporting their discrimination complaint.

    1. Mark Chapman

      EveT

      According to Mike Lyons, Mayor Rilling and others involved, the complaint was made by Shirley Mosby against Mike Lyons, not by the three women named against the rest of the board. What might have been said or done in the DTC meeting may be different, but the principals agree the complaint was one on one.

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