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ON THE RECORD: Six-term Mayor Harry Rilling sits down with NoN’s Malik Brizan-Reed for a conversation about the state of the City

Mayor Rilling and NoN intern Malik Brizan-Reed at City Hall (Photo by Communications Director
Michelle Woods Matthews)

How did Rilling feel about O&G’s withdrawal of its barge proposal? The resignations of two Common Council members within hours? What are his prospects for a seventh term in office? Read on. 

What made you decide to pursue becoming mayor? 

“I was born and raised in Norwalk. I know a lot of people here. When I made (police) lieutenant, people were saying, ‘One day, you’ll be the mayor of the City.’ When I became chief in 1995, I was chief for 17 years. After I retired from the police department in 2012, I started to think about running for mayor. But I started seeing things that weren’t happening in Norwalk that should be and things that were happening that shouldn’t. Norwalk was stagnated, and nothing was going on. So I felt that I could help make a difference.”

What do you think are the City’s biggest issues? What are you working on now to fix some of those issues?

“We want to improve the quality of life for people. We want to make sure they feel welcomed and provide equity and inclusion, and we want to make sure everybody feels like Norwalk is their home. We’re making Norwalk a more walkable, safer City. We’re going through the Complete Streets program. But the other issue I really feel is affecting Norwalk is the affordable housing study. We have to provide more affordable houses. We do more than most cities around the state. We have over 10% affordable housing. A lot of people in Norwalk are consuming one-third of their income, which puts them at a disadvantage. We have really taken a look at the affordable house, and I think that’s one of the main things we have to work on.”

What’s the optimal growth rate for the City, and at what point, if ever, do you stop?

“The market controls that. You don’t want to stop people from moving in because the City that doesn’t grow stagnates. I don’t think you can wave a magic wand and say no more people can move in. I think the market controls that. People will move in, and people will move out. We have approximately 91,000 living in Norwalk now, so we’re growing but not exploding. Norwalk was named by Fortune magazine the 29th best City to raise a family. We’re doing things right. The growth here is smart growth, and it’s controlled to a certain degree by the zoning regulations. I hear people say we need to build a wall around Norwalk–don’t let anyone else move in. It’s a silly thing to say you live here but you don’t want anyone else to live here.”

On Jan 23 of this year, you said: “The threats of climate change cannot be overstated, and it is our responsibility to do everything we can now to help mitigate the risks on behalf of our children, our grandchildren, and future generations.” What steps are being taken to address existing environmental concerns, such as the flooding on Water Street? Are there any new green initiatives or policies to reduce the City’s carbon footprint? 

“One of the things we are doing is installing electric vehicle charging stations throughout the City. We want to make our entire fleet electric. We’d like to see electric school buses; the ones now are run on propane, which is a start in the right direction. We’re composting in several places throughout the City. Even something as simple as putting LED lights in the City, saving energy. We are developing apartment units around our multi-transportation hub. A lot of people that live in those units don’t have cars. They hop on the train to work, so we’re building miles and miles of bike lanes; we have the Wheels2U (service) that keeps cars off the road.”

This is a good transition into O&G’s decision to withdraw their barge plan temporarily. What do you have to say about this? 

“I’m opposed to that use, and I didn’t hide my feelings. It wasn’t the proper use, and we want to make the best use of our waterfront. I thought it was poorly thought out, and I’m glad they withdrew. I thought that not only did the Planning & Zoning Commission listen to the public, but O&G did as well. They realized it was not popular, and O&G took the high road.”

What are some of the top priorities for the school system right now, and are there any remaining federal infrastructure monies?

“Many of the schools are state funded. If you look back at 2013, you’ll see my administration funded the Norwalk school system to a far greater degree than any previous administration. Lately, we had to cut down a bit because they wanted certain things. We try to fund the Board of Education as much as we can so they can educate our children. And we believe they are doing a remarkable job and people are moving here because they like our school system. We have the finest teachers. Many of our schools didn’t have air conditioning. Now, I think there are five or six that don’t have air conditioning, but we also want to update those air conditioning systems. We renovated Jefferson school, built a new Cranbury school, and also built for the first time a new South Norwalk school. We’re able to do this because the State of Connecticut helps build schools through the reimbursement program. We have a 25-year plan now, and every school in Norwalk will be renovated as new or a new one (built).”

An officer in the Norwalk Police Department was recently arrested for the fourth time. As a former police chief, what was your approach to handling repeated offenders within the ranks? 

“Discipline is a very difficult thing in a union setting. You have to follow certain processes. There is a progressive discipline process. I always found when something rose to the termination of a police officer, it’s something you don’t like to see, but police officers are human beings, and they make the same mistakes, even sometimes to a greater degree, because they see things that most people don’t see in their entire lifetime. They see death, abuse, drug use, and so many things that have an impact on them. A police officer who sought help was looked at as a weakness. We changed all that. If our police officers are struggling, we want them to seek help. The vast majority of police officers are hard-working, dedicated, loyal men and women. The few individuals who would tarnish our badge don’t deserve the right to wear our uniform. When I was the chief, I said I’d stand with you when you’re right, and when you’re being criticized, I’ll stand next to you. But when you’re wrong, I’ll have to do what I have to do. To see someone get arrested four times, well, the third time he got arrested, the clerk threw it out because they looked at the evidence and didn’t find that it was any evidence that he did that rose to the level of the charge. The last one is very serious, and I have total confidence in our chief that the chief will handle this in the right way.”

Considering the fair number of Hispanics in the community and the 17.3% of Black residents in Norwalk, what are some DEI initiatives? Has an officer been appointed? 

“The DEI person felt it wasn’t a good fit, so she decided to leave. We feel there are great opportunities now, and we’re trying to work with the schools of Norwalk to hire one DEI person…we are redefining the job description so the person will work with the Norwalk Public Schools and the City of Norwalk and be the DEI officer for both. It’s important for us to have a DEI officer. Right after the George Floyd case, I was the one to say we need a DEI officer; we need an equity and inclusion commission to look at the things happening in Norwalk and find where the inequities exist. We respect our diversity. Our diversity gives us our strength. I know it’s taking longer than we wanted to, but we’re still working with the Board of Education. If they’re not on board, we’ll still hire someone sooner rather than later.”

Two Common Council members from the same district resigned on the same day. Did you know that was coming? What do you think led to this? And how do you address the cause(s) so that it doesn’t happen again?

“I did not know it was coming. I was surprised and also disappointed. I think they have been good at participating on the council, but now it’s up to us to find replacements; it’s not something that happens all the time. We don’t know what’s going on in a person’s personal life, and we have to respect their decision.”

You’re now midway through your sixth term in office. In the past, you have run on your record of a stable tax rate and “the right way” for a community to grow. Midway through your sixth term, property taxes are going up, some residents are grumbling about too much growth, and traffic is a major issue. Will you continue to seek reelection?

“You’ll know when I know. I consult with my team, but foremost, I consult with my family, my wife, my children, and their thoughts. But I also look at what’s happening in Norwalk. Like I said before, what shouldn’t be happening and what’s not happening that should be. I look at what we accomplished and I’m very proud of that. I look at what direction we’re going in and what else needs to be accomplished. We run every two years, so this year is not an election year for me. After the midterm elections, I sit down and talk to my team, talk to my family, and come up with a plan for what’s going to happen in 2025. So, like I said, you’ll know when I know.”

(Lightly edited for length and clarity.)

Comments

9 responses to “ON THE RECORD: Six-term Mayor Harry Rilling sits down with NoN’s Malik Brizan-Reed for a conversation about the state of the City”

  1. Bryan Meek

    Smart growth would have involved building necessary infrastructure prior to packing every last square inch of the city with high grade cardboard apartments and doubling traffic times. Smart growth would have seen developers invest in that infrastructure instead of getting subsidies. How can you say with a straight face that the growth is from market conditions when you have rigged the market for developers at the expense of taxpayers? How can you say things were going bad when you inherited a rainy day fund that was growing year after year? Now that it is going down year after year after year to fund all the new departments and new headcount and wasteful spending too long to document here? In a recent story, we learned that when you started, we had 44,000 jobs in the city and now are down to 38,000. If that isn’t a report card for the new department that we never had or needed that has spent tens of millions of dollars on things we don’t need and can’t afford. Not that everything has been terrible It is difficult to destroy the Sound and proximity to New York City but when you look at surrounding towns whose real estate values have doubled in the last 10 years versus ours going up only 50% it becomes more difficult to see everything with Rosy glasses. Perhaps the saddest thing is that while we are Hartford’s cash cow we are act as if we are there AA team. Westport gets a bridge built in two weekends. We get to endure a 10 year project that doesn’t really serve many residents.. We get to witness the absolute lack of any urgency in the project for the last four years as they move cones and metal plates around east norwalk with no visible progress. The strawberry hill ave bridge took 4 years. Route 1 is one lane with no shoulder for 1/2 mile in the heart of the city. We get a regional HS that literally no other community n the state wanted. Does anyone ever hear about Hartford needing to do more? No instead we have a leader who says Norwalk needs to do more, which translates into more apartment, higher taxes, and painted sidewalks.

    1. Becca Stoll

      I know from previous comments that Mr. Meek and I don’t agree on this point, but I have to push back on the idea that the walk bridge replacement doesn’t serve Norwalk residents. A rising tide lifts all boats, and a faster more reliable commute benefits all riders, not to mention the transit-adjacent ecomomies of all our shoreline towns. It makes the train as attractive (if not more) than the car for a commute to work, a night out on Washington St, or a concert in Bridgeport or New Haven.

      I love Norwalk for Norwalk, but I for one absolutely did choose to live here (specifically in East Norwalk) because I could pretty easily commute to work in NYC without needing to drive at all. And while I only speak for myself, I know I’m not alone.

      I too am frustrated by the pace of infrastructure progress over on our side of the Norwalk River, but when I get off the train at 11:45pm and I see hardworking crews under the bridge, I bite my tongue and remember that this is all for the greater good, and better to do it when it affects the minority of us who commute off-peak. And at least I can still walk to the Station House for a post-work beer!

      1. Bryan Meek

        @Becca. Yes, the Walk Bridge needed replacement or major overhaul. There were designs at a fraction of the price that would have sufficed. The money we are wasting on this could have been spent on modernizing other river crossings or finally connecting 7 to 15 as a matter of public safety. The Fairfield Ave bridge disaster should have been a wake up call to do what is necessary, efficient, and affordable for the most citizens. I’m glad you will have a better experience on MNRR in 10 years if they ever fix the other myriad track and signaling issues on the entire line, but the reality is this supports less than 1% of Norwalk’s population. The rest of us use city streets that are clogged to the hilt and under permanent construction and increasingly dangerous with no one calling out ConnDOT for a sense of urgency on any of these projects. The guard rail project on the Merritt Parkway will be 15 years old next year. The design for the 7 and 15 connector is 10 years by itself. We have no one in local government or local representatives calling out Hartford for the gross neglect of the infrastructure. They barely even cut the grass anymore. We are paying good money for this and it just isn’t happening. Norwalk needs vocal leadership that will actually stand up for us. Harford County has 9 highways, dedicated bus and HOV lanes and a major airport, while lower Fairfield County produces over half of the state’s revenue. We’re lucky it was only Fairfield Ave. If something happens to a major river crossing like Chesapeake Bay we are screwed.

  2. Priscilla Feral

    Thanks for an interesting, straight forward interview, informing readers about a city that balances population growth, green initiatives and infrastructure upgrades with a vision of equity and progress.

    There will always be chronic complainers, and those who don’t see diversity as Norwalk’s strength. They complain here with regularity.

    When schools are strengthened, roads and sidewalks are improved, and climate change is recognized while addressed with city practices and policies, credit is due, and most residents agree.

  3. Lynnelle Jones

    Ms. Priscilla Feral may actually believe Norwalk is balancing population growth, green initiatives and infrastructure upgrades with a vision of equity and progress, however Mr. Meek has the facts to back up his statements. Can Ms. Feral explain how debt went from $500 million to $650 million?

    1. John O’Neill

      Lynelle: I’m guessing she’s talking about her section in the city. Although I think that part of Norwalk could use a little more diversity.
      Maybe a lot more diversity now that I think about it.

  4. Tysen Canevari

    I disagree with Mrs Feral. She in fact is one of the complainers. When things dont go her way with all the silly green initiatives she is the first to complain at a council meeting. Case in point, the huge joke of an ordinance banning backpack blowers was only rushed through by Lisa Shanahan (Rowayton resident) and her old ordinance committee because people like her in Rowayton dont want to hear noise. They tell us how it is bad for animals and that backpacks are worse than cars. Her NOT FOR PROFIT business called Friends Of Animals pays her mortgage based on financials showing 6 figure incomes for her and her husband. https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/136018549 Isnt it ironic they dont attack city hall for not utilizing any battery operated blowers? Also, how does the mayor keep saying we are a city of 91,000 people. I am willing to bet we have at least 110,000 counting all the illegals that live her and apartment dwellers. Between Bob Duff and the governor they have helped to over populate the hell out of Norwalk to no avail. They get millions and millions from us then post how Carver Center of this place is getting a 2 million dollar grant. The mall is starting to lose stores already, Washington Street is half empty, and Merrit 7 could easily be condensed to two less buildings. When city hall counts new businesses they consider uber eats drivers and taco trucks as growth. We still have never gotten and explanation why the DEI officer quit after a few months. I think she referred to Norwalk city hall as the good ol boys club. No one just up and quits after a few months at a salary way over $100,000. Politics is amazing how far people will go just to be part of their gang.

    1. David Muccigrosso

      You clearly haven’t been to Washington Street lately. There are now only 1-2 vacancies on the entire block.

  5. Bryan Meek

    A bit anecdotal butmore recent data shows that the city has a little over 51,000 jobs in it right now.

    NoN recently reported to study that said only 38,000 down from 44,000 only about 10 years ago. That really doesn’t make sense seeing the explosion of traffic throughout the city.

    I’d be more willing to believe this number I cited but maybe this news organization wants to ask 125 about it. The real fast should be known..

    For one I’m happy to hear that the number that was reported earlier is completely off. On the other hand at 20% spike in jobs from 10 years ago makes sense saying how bad the traffic has become around here. And we are still left living in a city that can build apartments at the speed of light, and take decades to change a traffic light.

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